Someone didn’t get the “Big Tent” memo
Since I’ve been back online, I haven’t had time to check out all of Denyse O’Leary’s blogs. I’m sure a couple hundred new O’Leary blogs sprouted up in my absence, so I’ve got some catching up to do. I did, however, find the “Darwinian Fundamentalism” blog in one of Denyse’s blogrolls. As one might guess, the blog is rife with Tard.
The most recent article is entitled “The Insular Secular Left”; it’s not much more than an excerpt from and a link to an editorial in the New York Sun, although the author does have this to say:
Why are Darwinian fundamentalists so eager to vilify intelligent design proponents and other macroevolutionary skeptics? Why is Nick Matzke so eager to lump young earth creationists and ID proponents together, and remain passionately ignorant of important distinctions? Why do so many scientists seem so eager intentionally to misrepresent ID and its advocates?
Darwinian Fundamentalism’s blogmeister is obviously unaware of Intelligent Design’s “big tent” policy:
Along with Mike Behe, most advocates of Intelligent Design (ID) think the designer is God. Almost all members of the ID community are mono-theists: mainly Christians, but also Jews and Moslems. As explained earlier, evolutionary creationists are excluded — by their own choice, and by the ID community — from the “big tent” of ID, which includes mainly old-earth progressive creationists (OECs) and young-earth creationists (YECs).
In other words, there are no important distinctions when it comes to Intelligent Design and Young Earth Creationism. They are both religiously-based forms of anti-evolution. Sure, there are some minor distinctions to be made, such as
- Intelligent Design sounds a little more scientific than Young Earth Creationism
- Young Earth Creationism is more blatantly anti-science than ID
Other than that, there’s not much difference. I mean, ID proponent William Dembski is just as much of a fuckhead as YECs Kent Hovind, Ken Ham and Jonathan Sarfati. One of the biggest douchebags on the internet is both an Intelligent Design proponent and a YEC. Intelligent Design and Creationism are both forms of pseudoscience.
Until Intelligent Design comes out and says that there is no longer any room in their big tent for YECs, any conflation between ID and creationism is perfectly acceptable. Better yet, if ID wants to claim an important distinction between Young Earth Creationism, perhaps ID proponents should stop whining about persecution and get off their asses and do some actual science.
The NY Sun editorial has fuck all to do with creationism and/or Intelligent Design, but it does bring up some interesting points that I might address a later date.
I’m running out of naming options for these increasingly sick people. I started out a month ago with Church Burners. Then I had to add Ebola Boys. Church Burning Ebola Boys. Now what - Church Burning Baby Butchering Ebola Boys? That’s too long. Too unwieldy. Any suggestions would be appreciated. (Source: 
March 10th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Wow. Counting up the number of times “f*ck” is used here, how could I possibly deny that you possess the truth?
March 10th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Do you not know that you will be judged according to every word that proceeds from your mouth?
The Quest for Right: A Creationist Attack on Quantum Mechanics.
Here’s a different take on creationism/ID: The Quest for Right, a seven-volume set of textbooks based on physical science, attacks Darwinism indirectly, by attacking quantum mechanics:
“Atheists base their reasoning on quantum interpretation, hand in hand with mathematical elucidation. Summoning the dark forces of quantum mysticism, with mathematical incantations, scientists possess the power to bewilder and, thus, con the average person seemingly at will, into believing the bizarre and surreal; for example, imaginary Z particles, neutrinos, leptons, quarks, weak bosons, etc. Mystics attempt to pass off quantum abuse as legitimate science by expressing the theories in symbolic fashion. These formulae represent the greatest hoax ever perpetuated upon an unsuspecting public. The objective of the extensive investigation is to expedite the return to physical science by exposing quantum dirty tricks; that is, the unethical behavior or acts by the scientific league to undermine and destroy the credibility of biblical histories. A few of the dirty tricks include: absolute dating systems, Big Bang Theory, antimatter, and the Oort Cloud of comets. These have no further station in science.
Of course, a more sophisticated way to argue against Darwinism is certainly to argue against quantum physics. Without modern physics, you lose astrophysics too, which enables the author to make the case for YEC [young earth creationism]. The author goes on to prove that things like red supergiant stars and X-ray pulsars don’t really exist, except in the imagination of scientists.” — Stephen L of the newsgroups.derkeiler.com
The several volumes have accomplished that which, heretofore, was deemed impossible: to level the playing field between those who desire a return to physical science in the classroom and those who embrace the theory of evolution. The series turns the tide by providing an authoritative and enlightening scientific explanation of natural phenomena which will ultimately dethrone the unprofitable Darwinian view. Readers will rejoice in the simplicity of earthly phenomena when entertained by the new discipline.
The Quest for Right is not only an academic resource designed for the public schools, but also contains a wealth of information on pertinent subjects that pastors need to know to be effective. The nuggets from the pages of biblical history alone will give pastors and teachers literally hundreds of fresh ideas for sermons and teachings. The ministry resources contained in The Quest for Right serve as an invaluable aid which will enrich your audience beyond their highest expectations.
You will not want to miss the adventure of a lifetime which awaits you in Volume 1 of The Quest for Right.
Visit the official website for additional information: http://questforright.com
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“A book that will change the world.” - Wayne Lin, Editor, Tate Publishing LLC
March 10th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Matteo, the fucking word “fuck” is fucking used twice in the fucking post. What the fuck do you have against the word “fuck”?
C. David Parsons: You’ve been served. I’m not going to delete your post at this time, but if you ever post a commercial for your book at this blog again, you will forever be banned at this blog. This applies to BPSDB.org, as well.
It’s not because you’re a creationist - you could be hawking a book entitled “Atheism & Devo” for all I care - it’s because you’re a spammer. Your bullshit egregiously violates the spirit of blogging.
I feel stupid even addressing your comment since you’re basically a ‘bot, but I want to be fair.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Hey Mr DNA if he wants to post an advertisement for his book “Why I am such a Fucking Douchebag” I would personally like to see it. Other than that, what you said.
March 10th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
I think (although I haven’t gone and looked) that this “Quantum” books of his are going to be full of: 1) creationist fallacies, misinformation, and lies, 2) a severe misunderstanding of quantum mechanics (maybe to Chopra level, or beyond?!), and 3) just general Woo. His material could be a few posts of debunking and shredding, to those willing and able to undertake it (not suggesting that you do, and I can’t afford it yet, but I’m sure that there may be some bloggers out there willing to step up to the plate and take one for the team).
(Besides, I’m sure the book will be great - after all, the editor of the company that publishes it says so)
March 11th, 2008 at 12:44 am
Badger3k, I don’t think you’re too far off the mark. In fact, I’m willing to bet that Parson’s (mis)understanding of quantum mechanics will make Deepak Chopra look like Stephen Hawking.
If you’d like a preview of what to expect, check this out. Especially interesting is the second “Anonymous” comment. It looks like getting your hands on a free copy isn’t too difficult.
More than the pro-science reviews of the book, I’d love to hear some other creationists and ID proponents offer their opinions. If it’s everything the author says it is, then the anti-evolution crowd should be lining up to herald the book as the final nail in evolution’s coffin.